John and Jed discuss the recent speech defending Mike Bickle and how it attempted to frame the public perception of her brother, Mike. They reflect on how her tone and phrasing followed recognizable manipulation strategies, and how those techniques were familiar to anyone who had grown up under strong religious authority. Jed explains why Lisa’s words were especially difficult for him to hear, given his own history, and outlines how attempts to minimize or excuse misconduct affect survivors. John adds his perspective on what it felt like to hear the language as if he were in the congregation and how the approach mirrored experiences from his past.<br /><br />Together they examine the wider implications for the International House of Prayer community and beyond. They compare how prophetic authority and promises of revival can be used to cover wrongdoing, and how this dynamic has played out repeatedly. They also highlight how leaders in the broader movement have responded, often with silence, and the consequences this has for accountability. Throughout the discussion, both hosts emphasize how the rhetoric of forgiveness has been misapplied in ways that silence those raising concerns, and they call out the difference between genuine redemption and using faith to maintain power.______________________<br />Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:<br />Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962<br />Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K<br /><br />00:00 Introduction<br />01:04 Why This Episode Matters<br />02:27 The DARVO Pattern Revisited<br />05:03 Lisa Bickle’s Sermons and Strategic Framing<br />08:01 Using Victims’ Past to Justify Mike<br />10:17 John’s Multi-Layered Reaction<br />12:04 Manipulation in Cult Structures<br />14:02 Social Media as “Mocking God”<br />16:04 Early Allegations and Prophetic Grooming<br />18:04 Online Backlash and the Bickle Inner Circle<br />20:14 Lisa’s Anger and Targeting of Accusers<br />22:04 Turning Point: Tammy’s Testimony<br />25:50 Revival Narrative vs. Victim Testimony<br />28:24 Reckoning with Family Loyalty and Truth<br />30:06 Impact on the Hope City Community<br />33:15 Legacy of Prophetic Abuse<br />35:34 Outside Perspectives on Indoctrination<br />37:05 Spiritual Spectacle as Distraction<br />41:03 Mold in the House: A Prophetic Metaphor<br />44:54 Justifying Abuse in the Name of Destiny<br />47:05 The Prosperity Defense<br />48:14 The False Redemption Arc<br />51:19 Comparing Real Penance to Manipulated Forgiveness<br />54:04 No Repentance, No Restoration<br />56:05 Justice Rhetoric Without Justice<br />58:59 Closing Thoughts on Power and Silence<br />______________________<br />– Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham<br />– Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ<br />– Visit the website: https://william-branham.org<br />– Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg <br />– Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham<br />– Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr<br />– Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books
